Changes between Version 3 and Version 4 of FloriansDiplomaThesis

Timestamp:

06/24/08 12:01:07 (16 years ago)

Author:

fmittag

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FloriansDiplomaThesis

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 = Music Ontology =
 
-== Artist collaboration ==
+== Artists ==
+
+=== Artist collaboration ===
 
 At first glance, one might say that only one class Artist is sufficient, but it quickly reveals its limits. A few examples:
 
- 1. '''Chicane feat. Tom Jones - Stoned in Love''' (http://www.discogs.com/release/650389)
- 2. '''Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren - Light The Skies''' (http://www.discogs.com/release/944142)
+ 1. '''Chicane feat. Tom Jones - Stoned in Love''' ([http://www.discogs.com/release/650389 at discogs.com]) ([http://musicbrainz.org/release/f23e55ac-b7d5-4993-a310-17648b6c318e.html at musicbrainz.com])
+ 2. '''Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren - Light The Skies''' ([http://www.discogs.com/release/944142 at discogs.com])
 
-Let's forget for a moment that this are in fact ''release''s and not ''song''s and ''concentrate'' on the artists: In the first case there are two artists, '''Chicane''' and '''Tom Jones'''. Or is there one artist called '''Chicane feat. Tom Jones'''?[[BR]]
+Let's forget for a moment that this are in fact ''release''s and not ''song''s and concentrate on the ''artists'': In the first case there are two artists, '''Chicane''' and '''Tom Jones'''. Or is there one artist called '''Chicane feat. Tom Jones'''? Musicbrainz has a special [http://musicbrainz.org/doc/FeaturingArtistStyle FeaturingArtistStyle], whereas discogs just has multiple artists.[[BR]]
+
 The second case is a bit more difficult, as there is a an artist on discogs called [http://www.discogs.com/artist/Cerf%2C+Mitiska+%26+Jaren '''Cerf, Mitiska & Jaren'''], but it consists of three members, Jaren, Shawn Mitiska and Matt Cerf.
 
 Discogs has the following [http://www.discogs.com/help/submission-guidelines-release-artist.html guidelines for artists], which say that "''Artists which commonly collaborate together should be listed as one artist''" and "''Do NOT attempt to split artists who regularly collaborate. (Regular collaboration consists of 3 or more collaborations (different releases), excluding remix EPs)''".
 
-== Artist Aliases ==
+=== Artist Aliases ===
 
 A different problem is the one of the [http://musicbrainz.org/doc/SameArtistWithDifferentNames same artist having different names]. The problem is rather easy with music groups, because it can be modelled accurately by two different music groups having the same members.[[BR]]
 But with solo artists (persons) one has to distinguish name variations (DJ Tiësto, Tiësto, Tiesto, ...) and different names (aliases) under which he releases stuff ([http://www.discogs.com/artist/Drumfire Drumfire] is an alias of [http://www.discogs.com/artist/DJ+Tiësto DJ Tiësto])
 
+To make this mess even worse, there are [http://musicbrainz.org/doc/FictitiousArtist fictitious artists], e.g. [http://musicbrainz.org/artist/3c6754ff-0e14-49f9-8e84-c323f3f3a8b3.html Bernd das Brot].
+
 http://musicbrainz.org/doc/ArtistAlias
+http://musicbrainz.org/doc/FeaturingArtistStyle
+
+=== Conclusion ===
+
+Even though discogs.com and musicbrainz.com have put much thought in it, they couldn't cover all cases and there are always exceptions. We have to come up with a solution that has to special enough to fit our cause, but simple enough to be used by non-nerds.
+
+more to follow